New Macs – Unzip Omnis

hi Michael:

I think the world is incompatible with OSX 10.5.8. that came out ins 2007, so some 10 years ago.

we still use Studio 5.2.3 and gave up on support for 10.5 long time back. minimum we can do is 10.6.8, and even then its tenuous support.

Xcode has target builds that indicates how far back you can go and I can’t imagine michael still supporting relics from that far back. He dies a good job of maintaining minimum standards, but you might need an old old copy of owrite… which would be abset bug fixes in the newer ones.

another question is — is this machine power PC based (the xcomps might not support that)

and its probably far cheaper to get the user to
a) upgrade to snow leopard 10.6.8)
b) buy a new mac mini and get with the times.

I know thats not exactly a great answer. and unless you have lots of people using those old machines, you are probably gonig to hate yourself for trying to make new software run on it.

and sooner or later — the client does have to move forward. it might be time. If the client is frugal — try get him to update to 10.6.8. you might have a better chance with that.

Doug Easterbrook
Arts Management Systems Ltd.
mailto:doug@artsman.com
www.artsman.com
Phone (403) 650-1978

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 7:29 AM, Michael Mantkowski <michaelj@clientrax.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if the latest Brainy Data components are incompatible with
> Mac OS 10.5.8? (Owrite, Ospell2 and PDF Device)
>
> I have been working with this “Packages” Installer software to setup for
> updating xcomps. My Mac development system is using OS 10.11.6 but my “User
> Test” system that contains only the RT versions of our software is using OS
> 10.5.8.
>
> The XCOMP files are being updated but they will not start when Omnis Starts.
> I have been pulling my hair out wondering if I setup the installer wrong.
> (Per my message yesterday where I thought the installed was corrupting the
> files.)
>
> Finally, I manually copied the files from Brainy Data’s original zip files
> to test them and found I am getting the same result. They are working on my
> Developments System but not the RT System.
>
> Studio 4.3.2.1
> Non Unicode
>
> I did try to ask Brainy Data first but got a return message that they are
> closed for a couple weeks. I would appreciate it if anyone else might know
> the answer to this.
>
> *********************************************************************
> Michael Mantkowski
> ClienTrax Software
> 1-614-875-2245
> *********************************************************************
>
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com] On Behalf
> Of Mike Matthews
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:00 AM
> To: OmnisDev List – English <omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com>
> Subject: Re: New Macs – Unzip Omnis
>
> I’ll write it up and send over tomorrow for you.
>
>
> Mike Matthews, Managing Director, Lineal Software Solutions Ltd
>
> Apple Reseller, Microsoft Partner, SQLWorks Business Partner
> phone: 01271 375999 | web: lineal.co.uk
> <www.lineal.co.uk/> | email: mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk
> <mailto:mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk>
>
> On 26 Sep 2017, at 23:10, Michael Mantkowski <michaelj@clientrax.com
> <mailto:michaelj@clientrax.com>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Yes, that is exactly what I am trying to do.
>>
>> I am currently working on v4.
>>
>> I am curious, in the past I tried to do what you are suggesting but was
> not able to because Omnis Opens the files when it starts. So trying to
> delete the file did not work.
>>
>> I would be curious if you would share the code snippet you did this with?
> My application actually creates its open update library when it sees there
> is a new version available allowing my application to essentially update
> itself when the users starts it. But it never worked with the XCOMP or
> EXTERNAL files because I was using Omnis as the updater which opened the
> files I wanted to replace.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> *********************************************************************
>> Michael Mantkowski
>> ClienTrax Software
>> 1-614-875-2245
>> *********************************************************************
>>
>>
>> —–Original Message—–
>> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com
>> omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com>] On Behalf Of Mike
>> Matthews
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 5:58 PM
>> To: OmnisDev List – English <omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com
>> <mailto:omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com>>
>> Subject: Re: New Macs – Unzip Omnis
>>
>> Ok, so reading back a bit, OSX and Studio what version? I don’t think it
> matters.
>>
>> I currently have done this by using the FileOps commands from the running
> version of Studio. You know where the comps path is using SYS() functions.
>>
>> I move the current ones into a new folder called comps-disabled.
>> Then move the new ones into place.
>> The restart Omnis.
>>
>> This worked for v4, v5 and v6 so far, OSX and Windows.
>>
>> The trick is not to replace a current loaded one, but you can move it
> around while running. So I move it out, put in the new one, and force the
> user to restart our App.
>>
>> This works for Externals as well. Did I get the problem right now?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Mike Matthews, Managing Director, Lineal Software Solutions Ltd
>>
>> Apple Reseller, Microsoft Partner, SQLWorks Business Partner
>> phone: 01271 375999 | web: lineal.co.uk <lineal.co.uk/>
>> <www.lineal.co.uk/ <www.lineal.co.uk/>> | email:
>> mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk <mailto:mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk>
>> <mailto:mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk
>> <mailto:mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk>>
>>> On 26 Sep 2017, at 22:51, Michael Mantkowski <michaelj@clientrax.com
> <mailto:michaelj@clientrax.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> I think there is a misunderstanding. I am trying to update an already
> existing instillation.
>>>
>>> Just trying to get a few new XCOMP file updates into the exiting OmnisRT.
>>>
>>> *********************************************************************
>>> Michael Mantkowski
>>> ClienTrax Software
>>> 1-614-875-2245
>>> *********************************************************************
>>>
>>>
>>> —–Original Message—–
>>> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com
>>> omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com>] On Behalf Of Mike
>>> Matthews
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 5:46 PM
>>> To: OmnisDev List – English <omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com
>>> <mailto:omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: New Macs – Unzip Omnis
>>>
>>> Michael,
>>>
>>> You need to look at and understand the FirstRunInstall mechanism. I
> think thismighthelp you, the penny finally dropped for me the other day,
> after a good sound ear bashing by Chris at Omnis Support.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Matthews, Managing Director, Lineal Software Solutions Ltd
>>>
>>> Apple Reseller, Microsoft Partner, SQLWorks Business Partner
>>> phone: 01271 375999 | web: lineal.co.uk <lineal.co.uk/>
>>> <www.lineal.co.uk/ <www.lineal.co.uk/>> |
>>> email: mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk <mailto:mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk>
>>> <mailto:mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk
>>> <mailto:mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk>>
>>>> On 26 Sep 2017, at 22:36, Michael Mantkowski <michaelj@clientrax.com
> <mailto:michaelj@clientrax.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alex,
>>>>
>>>> That would not work because the xcomps reside within the OmnisRT.aps
> file (package). I don’t want to replace the whole OmnisRT, just the three
> xcomps the are inside it.
>>>>
>>>> But maybe if I manually create the folders the represent the path?
>>>>
>>>> I will try that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **************************************************
> _____________________________________________________________
> Manage your list subscriptions at lists.omnis-dev.com
>
> _____________________________________________________________
> Manage your list subscriptions at lists.omnis-dev.com

_____________________________________________________________
Manage your list subscriptions at lists.omnis-dev.com