O$ Studio 5.2.3.x and OSX 10.12.6 — anybody having issues in development mode
hi Mike.
I don’t yet have our application fully migrated to studio 8 on OSX .. is on the list to do soon. so I can’t tell you if we see the same (yet).
but I would let omnis support know if you have a reproducible case..
We have a timer proc running in the background for logoff purposes — it fires every minute or so — but I don’t see an abnormal drain in Studio 5.
hmmm. something to watch for
Doug Easterbrook
Arts Management Systems Ltd.
mailto:doug@artsman.com
www.artsman.com
Phone (403) 650-1978
> On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Mike Matthews <omnis@lineal.co.uk> wrote:
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> Doug,
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> Interesting point. I have noticed on OSX 10.12.6 with v8.8.3.2 & v8.1.0.0, there is a massive CPU hog somewhere, but looking at other 10.12.x Macs here, it is not isolated to 10.12.6 really.
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> Activity monitor shows between 75% & 95% usage when moving the mouse around a window. This was not so with v5.x or v6.x either.
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> On the Runtime v8.03, the drain is not as large. But when watching the CPU activity, just moving the mouse around the TopWin, no clicks, just moving it, 80+% of CPU is taken by Omnis.
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> Open Activity monitor and try it with any version of V8 and let me know what you get. We do have a timer object running all of the time however.
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> Mike
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> Mike Matthews, Managing Director, Lineal Software Solutions Ltd
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> Apple Reseller, Microsoft Partner, SQLWorks Business Partner
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>> On 25 Aug 2017, at 14:56, Doug Easterbrook <doug@artsman.com> wrote:
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>> hi Andy.
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>> the other thought I have is …. timer procedures under 10.12.6 — I’m finding that they are quirky with this release of the OS
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>> sometimes, a direct application of a timer procedure will not fire — even if told to do so.
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>> and the other thing we do is postgres sql calls in the background thread — which I know uses timer procedures as part of its implementation to get the data to the method that is to received i when the background thread is complete.
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>> are you using a lot of those???
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>> Doug Easterbrook
>> Arts Management Systems Ltd.
>> mailto:doug@artsman.com
>> www.artsman.com
>> Phone (403) 650-1978
>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Andy Hilton <andyh@totallybrilliant.com> wrote:
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>>> Yes the OS seems to be the determining factor on my users side as well…..
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>>>> On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:21 AM, Doug Easterbrook <doug@artsman.com> wrote:
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>>>> hi Andy:
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>>>> All of our team have retina displays — but I’m the only one with the ribbon bar above the keyboard.
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>>>> I’ll watch for what I find — I have seen slowishness at time redrawing menus, but I have not see and transactions get rolled back (we use postgres) after quit.
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>>>> good to hear that I”m not the only one — It’ll take time to figure the issue — I’m currently blaming OSX 10.12.6 since all was fie before that.
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>>>>
>>>> Doug Easterbrook
>>>> Arts Management Systems Ltd.
>>>> mailto:doug@artsman.com
>>>> www.artsman.com
>>>> Phone (403) 650-1978
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017, at 5:28 AM, Andy Hilton <andyh@totallybrilliant.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Doug
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>>>>> Several of my users (running 5.2.3) have mentioned things like :
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>>>>> Inability to select headed list lines
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>>>>> Specifically on very latest mac os – I was wondering if it was also related only to the Retina displays but that was conjecture on my part….
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>>>>> They also report that Omnis runs very slowly in this situation, and I have one who swears he can do some transactions then log out and the session appears to reverse – like an intentional manual transaction not committing – except it is an automatic commit in the code ! Again only under latest OS……
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>>>>> Hard for me to test as I ahve not taken that step yet……
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>>>>> Keep me posted though if you come up with anything…..
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
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>>>>>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 8:51 PM, Doug Easterbrook <doug@artsman.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> hi all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I upgraded my mac laptop from 10.12.5 of OSX to 10.12.6 and I’m finding that studio 5.2.3.x is crashing on me quite frequently.
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>>>>>> I’m not able to move column dividers in headed lists or in the IDE
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>>>>>> I’m not able to drag across text and select text (but clicking the cursor in one spot and shift clicking elsewhere will let me select)
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>>>>>> Some times I can select multiple lines in a headed list or in the IDE … and then some time later I cannot and I can only click on one line at a time.
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>>>>>> Some timer procedures do not see to work …
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>>>>>> menu’s go dim for quite a while .. then enable; almost as if I had a global disable menus running (but I don’t)
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>>>>>> Runtime crashes right on startup at with this at top stack — which seems to complain about menu’s… so I can’t get it to start.
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>>>>>> 0 com.ArtsMan.TheatreManager 0x00664346 menuCarbonEventHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 814
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>>>>>> before that, in 10.12.5 of OSX — all the above worked.
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>>>>>> I know — we have to get to Studio 8.1 in the near future — but what I wanted to know is if anybody else is seeing those kinds of problems with studio 5.1
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>>>>>> My machine
>>>>>> — it has one of those task ribbon bars at the top (so I’m wondering if that, plus 10.12.6 is a factor — but they worked in 10.16.5)…
>>>>>> — 16 gigs ram
>>>>>> — 2 TB of disks space with lots left
>>>>>> — running 3 monitors
>>>>>> (now of the above has changed between 10.12.5 and 10.12.6)
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>>>>>> I’ve also completely re-installed the operating system and same issues.
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>>>>>> the rest of my team are able to use Studio 10.12.6 and Studio 5.2.3.x, as am I on a mac mini
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>>>>>> so, effectively, I’m wondering if studio 5.2.3.x went nuts with ribbon bar on the latest laptop.
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>>>>>> any similar experiences??
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>>>>>> Doug Easterbrook
>>>>>> Arts Management Systems Ltd.
>>>>>> mailto:doug@artsman.com
>>>>>> www.artsman.com
>>>>>> Phone (403) 650-1978
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