Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
You could also test for a specific name of a data file and take steps if
they get into some other file.
That comes with its own issues for some apps but may help this specific
situation.
You of course could add more rules that concern the path of the data.
Lots of things you can do depending on the situation.
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—–Original Message—–
From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com] On Behalf
Of Jeanne Reyes
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 2:31 PM
To: OmnisDev List – English <omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com>
Subject: Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
Same problem happens to me every now and then for various reasons and the
user ends up using a dif data than intended. This is what I came up with on
Studio 6 and up. (probably works on previous versions as well, but no way to
find out)
I made the request to open the data file on an specific path, for ex:
Open data file {pathnameofdata.df1} **then test if it could open or not
If flag false
OK message {DATA NOT AVAILABLE’}
Quit Omnis
End If
Studio still ask for a database at closing the first time the user tries to
open the program, but it will close anyway. The rest of the times it will
close without asking. Either way, it is irrelevant in this scenario if the
user chooses another datafile or not, because the program will close anyway
after he choses it, not giving them the chance to work on the wrong place.
The next time the user opens the program it will either close (without
asking like I said) or get into the right datafile if it is available at
that time.
Not the most elegant solution, but it works. At least it prevents the user
to use the incorrect data.
Hope if helps if nobody comes up with a way that it never ask in the first
place.
Jeanne Reyes
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> 1. Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile (Rankin Darby)
> 2. RE: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile (Michael Mantkowski)
> 3. Re: [NO] Ping… Just to see if the list is working. (Mike Rowan)
> 4. Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile (Mirko Pepa)
> 5. RE: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile (Wendy)
> 6. Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile (Mike Matthews)
> 7. Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
> (Alain Stouder Omnis)
> 8. RE: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile (Wendy)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 16:59:15 -0400
> From: Rankin Darby <darbyrr@gmail.com>
> To: omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com
> Subject: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
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> When the datafile has 20 users logged on, someone tries to log on to
> Omnis and Omnis pops up a file manager window wanting the User to pick
> a datafile.
>
> This scenario happened on one of our Intake computers and the user
> pointed the application to a test Omnis datafile.
>
> Anyone know how to stop Omnis from doing this ??
>
>
> ——————————
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 17:05:11 -0400
> From: “Michael Mantkowski” <michaelj@clientrax.com>
> To: “‘OmnisDev List – English'” <omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com>
> Subject: RE: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
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> We store the data path in a text file then tell Omnis to open that
> data file when starting the library.
>
> You have to do this before any action that would need to look up data.
>
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> —–Original Message—–
> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com] On
> Behalf Of Rankin Darby
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 4:59 PM
> To: omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com
> Subject: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
>
> When the datafile has 20 users logged on, someone tries to log on to
> Omnis and Omnis pops up a file manager window wanting the User to pick
> a datafile.
>
> This scenario happened on one of our Intake computers and the user
> pointed the application to a test Omnis datafile.
>
> Anyone know how to stop Omnis from doing this ??
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 07:18:55 +0930
> From: Mike Rowan <michael.rowan3@gmail.com>
> To: OmnisDev List – English <omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com>
> Subject: Re: [NO] Ping… Just to see if the list is working.
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> Working
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> > On 1 Nov 2017, at 21:51, Vik Shah <Vik@Keys2Solutions.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 07:56:11 +0100
> From: Mirko Pepa <mirko.pepa@profile.ch>
> To: OmnisDev List – English <omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com>
> Subject: Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
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> Hello
>
> Perhaps you have just 20 omnis licences. This Happens to me, when the
> licenses are all used.
>
> Regards
>
> Mirko
>
> ———————————–
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>
> > Am 01.11.2017 um 21:59 schrieb Rankin Darby <darbyrr@gmail.com>:
> >
> > When the datafile has 20 users logged on, someone tries to log on to
> Omnis
> > and Omnis pops up a file manager window wanting the User to pick a
> datafile.
> >
> > This scenario happened on one of our Intake computers and the user
> pointed
> > the application to a test Omnis datafile.
> >
> > Anyone know how to stop Omnis from doing this ??
> > _____________________________________________________________
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> ——————————
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 07:02:59 -0000
> From: “Wendy” <wizardcompserv@gmail.com>
> To: “‘OmnisDev List – English'” <omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com>
> Subject: RE: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
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> Or it could be that a user is logged in twice taking up 2 licences.
>
> Even if the path to the database is held and can be seen by the
> software this would not prevent this happening.
>
> Kind regards
> Wendy Osbaldestin
> Wizard Computer Services
> Tel: 01260271647
> Mobile: 07740541021
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com] On
> Behalf Of Mirko Pepa
> Sent: 02 November 2017 06:56
> To: OmnisDev List – English
> Subject: Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
>
> Hello
>
> Perhaps you have just 20 omnis licences. This Happens to me, when the
> licenses are all used.
>
> Regards
>
> Mirko
>
> ———————————–
> Mirko Pepa, Profile GmbH
> Schaffhauserstr. 103
> 8400 Winterthur
> Tel. +41 52 213 63 33
> www.profile.ch www.helper.ch
> ———————————–
>
>
> > Am 01.11.2017 um 21:59 schrieb Rankin Darby <darbyrr@gmail.com>:
> >
> > When the datafile has 20 users logged on, someone tries to log on to
> > Omnis and Omnis pops up a file manager window wanting the User to
> > pick a
> datafile.
> >
> > This scenario happened on one of our Intake computers and the user
> > pointed the application to a test Omnis datafile.
> >
> > Anyone know how to stop Omnis from doing this ??
> > _____________________________________________________________
> > Manage your list subscriptions at lists.omnis-dev.com
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 12:44:15 +0200
> From: Mike Matthews <omnis@lineal.co.uk>
> To: OmnisDev List – English <omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com>
> Subject: Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
> Message-ID: <0F70E476-E064-46AF-82F2-5DD1501D05C2@lineal.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello Rankin,
>
> The answer is no, you can’t stop Omnis from asking for a datafile, I
> think. Which could lead users to connect to a dummy datafile and not
> be any the wiser, until people start noticing missing data, etc.
>
> So can you stop Omnis from asking for a connection to a DF1 if the
> licences are all in use, either due to valid or invalid logons?
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Mike Matthews, Managing Director, Lineal Software Solutions Ltd
>
> Apple Reseller, Microsoft Partner, SQLWorks Business Partner
> phone: 01271 375999 | web: lineal.co.uk <www.lineal.co.uk/> |
> email: mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk <mailto:mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk>
> > On 2 Nov 2017, at 09:02, Wendy <wizardcompserv@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Or it could be that a user is logged in twice taking up 2 licences.
> >
> > Even if the path to the database is held and can be seen by the
> > software this would not prevent this happening.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Wendy Osbaldestin
> >
> > —–Original Message—–
> > From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com]
> > On
> Behalf
> > Of Mirko Pepa
> > Sent: 02 November 2017 06:56
> > To: OmnisDev List – English
> > Subject: Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > Perhaps you have just 20 omnis licences. This Happens to me, when
> > the licenses are all used.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mirko
> >
> > ———————
> >
> >
> >> Am 01.11.2017 um 21:59 schrieb Rankin Darby <darbyrr@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> When the datafile has 20 users logged on, someone tries to log on
> >> to Omnis and Omnis pops up a file manager window wanting the User
> >> to pick a
> > datafile.
> >>
> >> This scenario happened on one of our Intake computers and the user
> >> pointed the application to a test Omnis datafile.
> >>
> >> Anyone know how to stop Omnis from doing this ??
> >> _____________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ——————————
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 12:05:26 +0100
> From: Alain Stouder Omnis <omnis@smartway.ch>
> To: OmnisDev List – English <omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com>
> Subject: Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
> Message-ID: <610762DB-9106-404A-B47E-9A164D353CA7@smartway.ch>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Isn?t Omnis returning a too many users error message before it pops a
> choose datafile dialog?!
>
> —
> Learn something new every day!
>
> > On 2 Nov 2017, at 11:44, Mike Matthews <omnis@lineal.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Rankin,
> >
> > The answer is no, you can’t stop Omnis from asking for a datafile, I
> think. Which could lead users to connect to a dummy datafile and not
> be any the wiser, until people start noticing missing data, etc.
> >
> > So can you stop Omnis from asking for a connection to a DF1 if the
> licences are all in use, either due to valid or invalid logons?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Matthews, Managing Director, Lineal Software Solutions Ltd
> >
> > Apple Reseller, Microsoft Partner, SQLWorks Business Partner
> > phone: 01271 375999 | web: lineal.co.uk <www.lineal.co.uk/> |
> email: mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk <mailto:mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk>
> >> On 2 Nov 2017, at 09:02, Wendy <wizardcompserv@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Or it could be that a user is logged in twice taking up 2 licences.
> >>
> >> Even if the path to the database is held and can be seen by the
> >> software this would not prevent this happening.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> Wendy Osbaldestin
> >>
> >> —–Original Message—–
> >> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com]
> >> On
> Behalf
> >> Of Mirko Pepa
> >> Sent: 02 November 2017 06:56
> >> To: OmnisDev List – English
> >> Subject: Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
> >>
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> Perhaps you have just 20 omnis licences. This Happens to me, when
> >> the licenses are all used.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Mirko
> >>
> >> ———————
> >>
> >>
> >>> Am 01.11.2017 um 21:59 schrieb Rankin Darby <darbyrr@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> When the datafile has 20 users logged on, someone tries to log on
> >>> to Omnis and Omnis pops up a file manager window wanting the User
> >>> to pick
> a
> >> datafile.
> >>>
> >>> This scenario happened on one of our Intake computers and the user
> >>> pointed the application to a test Omnis datafile.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone know how to stop Omnis from doing this ??
> >>> _____________________________________________________________
> >
> > _____________________________________________________________
> > Manage your list subscriptions at lists.omnis-dev.com
>
>
>
> ——————————
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 11:17:17 -0000
> From: “Wendy” <wizardcompserv@gmail.com>
> To: “‘OmnisDev List – English'” <omnisdev-en@lists.omnis-dev.com>
> Subject: RE: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
> Message-ID: <001701d353cc$255caa20$7015fe60$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”UTF-8″
>
> No you cannot monitor this until the database is opened. The same
> application can use different databases.
>
> Unless you were to have 2 databases – 1 to log the users on and off
> and the one with the data I do not think there is any way to find out
> how many users are on without opening the database.
>
> Keeping a separate log also poses problems if a user crashes out their
> entry would not be deleted
>
> Kind regards
> Wendy Osbaldestin
> Wizard Computer Services
> Tel: 01260271647
> Mobile: 07740541021
>
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com] On
> Behalf Of Alain Stouder Omnis
> Sent: 02 November 2017 11:05
> To: OmnisDev List – English
> Subject: Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
>
> Isn?t Omnis returning a too many users error message before it pops a
> choose datafile dialog?!
>
> —
> Learn something new every day!
>
> > On 2 Nov 2017, at 11:44, Mike Matthews <omnis@lineal.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Rankin,
> >
> > The answer is no, you can’t stop Omnis from asking for a datafile, I
> think. Which could lead users to connect to a dummy datafile and not
> be any the wiser, until people start noticing missing data, etc.
> >
> > So can you stop Omnis from asking for a connection to a DF1 if the
> licences are all in use, either due to valid or invalid logons?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Matthews, Managing Director, Lineal Software Solutions Ltd
> >
> > Apple Reseller, Microsoft Partner, SQLWorks Business Partner
> > phone: 01271 375999 | web: lineal.co.uk <www.lineal.co.uk/> |
> > email: mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk
> > <mailto:mike.matthews@lineal.co.uk>
> >> On 2 Nov 2017, at 09:02, Wendy <wizardcompserv@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Or it could be that a user is logged in twice taking up 2 licences.
> >>
> >> Even if the path to the database is held and can be seen by the
> >> software this would not prevent this happening.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> Wendy Osbaldestin
> >>
> >> —–Original Message—–
> >> From: omnisdev-en [mailto:omnisdev-en-bounces@lists.omnis-dev.com]
> >> On Behalf Of Mirko Pepa
> >> Sent: 02 November 2017 06:56
> >> To: OmnisDev List – English
> >> Subject: Re: Stopping Omnis from asking for a Datafile
> >>
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> Perhaps you have just 20 omnis licences. This Happens to me, when
> >> the licenses are all used.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Mirko
> >>
> >> ———————
> >>
> >>
> >>> Am 01.11.2017 um 21:59 schrieb Rankin Darby <darbyrr@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> When the datafile has 20 users logged on, someone tries to log on
> >>> to Omnis and Omnis pops up a file manager window wanting the User
> >>> to pick a
> >> datafile.
> >>>
> >>> This scenario happened on one of our Intake computers and the user
> >>> pointed the application to a test Omnis datafile.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone know how to stop Omnis from doing this ??
> >>> _____________________________________________________________
> >
> > _____________________________________________________________
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